The people who actually run things.
50+ named guests across 78 episodes. Sitting DMO presidents and CEOs. Agency principals. Vendor founders. Industry veterans. No PR-circle bookings, no softballs — the only rule for coming on the show is having a real argument to make.
The guest list is the show's single most important editorial decision. We turn down more pitches than we accept, and we don't book people because of their title — we book people because they'll stake a position under their own name and defend it with something more than a case study.
If you've been on the show, your episode is linked below alongside your fellow guests. If you want to come on the show, the contact page has the path — but read our guest invitation first. We've written it bluntly enough to scare off anyone who doesn't want to be challenged.
Repeat offenders.
A small group of guests have earned a rare thing: we keep inviting them back. These are the people whose thinking has meaningfully shaped the show's arguments.
9 named guests and counting.
Full directory lands as we finish profiling guests from the 78-episode archive. For now — recent guests from this season.
Alex Husner
Co-host, Alex & Annie Podcast 1 episodeAn insider's view of the vacation-rental industry and the DMO relationship most destinations won't touch.
Adjacent industriesAnnie Holcombe
Co-host, Alex & Annie Podcast 1 episodeThe vacation-rental industry's perspective on how DMOs keep getting the relationship wrong.
Agency / vendor / consultingBill Geist
Founder, DMOproz 1 episodeBlunt, experience-backed truth about DMO boards, governance, and political pressure.
Agency / vendor / consultingC.A. Clark
AI Strategist, Independent 3 episodesWhy 'I already use ChatGPT' is not the same thing as using AI, and what to change.
Agency / vendor / consultingChristian Mengel
Industry strategist, Independent 1 episodeA cross-industry strategist's take on where DMOs are actually headed in the next 24 months.
DMO / CVB leadershipDanielle Hollander
Chief Marketing Officer, Visit Orlando 1 episodeStructural honesty about why DMOs are siloed, and what actually fixes it.
DMO / CVB leadershipJason Holic
Chief Marketing Officer, Experience Kissimmee 1 episodeA live case study for destination stewardship as a core DMO function, not a side quest.
Agency / vendor / consultingKaty Livingston
Partner, Madden Media 1 episodeClear language for why destination creative has flattened — and what fixing it would actually cost.
Agency / vendor / consultingMatt Stiker
Partner, Madden Media 1 episodeAgency-side honesty about creative sameness and why the safest work is the most forgettable.
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